Trump’s Call to Georgia: It’s as bad as you think.

Donald Trump’s party call to Georgia on January 2nd as reported by the Washington Post: a partial transcript.

Some people say this was leaked to WP from someone inside the Trump Administration. To me, when I first heard it, I thought it was recorded on the Georgia side. Makes more sense to me, but I don’t really care which party it was. It’s incriminating to Trump, and security for Raffensperger. Raffensperger played it straight and offered very little.

Trying to transcribe this is a mess because Trump speaks in a complete, jumbled mess. I mostly went verbatim, but cleaned up a little.

I skipped large chunks of it. There’s much more of the same throughout the hour plus recording, I just focused on the more continuous sections.

Trump speaks for probably 90% of the call. The first 15 minutes are an endless cult conspiracy theory rehash by Donny.

I want to say, these kind of phone calls, are probably what Donny has been doing for the past 2 months when he isn’t golfing. He clearly could just bullshit on the phone all day long, every day. In this particular instance, he is very comfortable playing the mob boss, handing out “suggestions” with accompanying veiled threats if those suggestions are not followed. He is honestly quite good at this.

In his own madman style, he does quite well in not finishing sentences or scattered thoughts that imply the type of action he wants, or the type of consequence that will follow if those actions are not met, while simultaneously not directly connecting the two. I will highlight those sentence/thought fragments.

It is worse than his Ukraine call. Much worse. Trump more clearly states he wants fraud to be committed on his behalf in order to win an election. Even if not as a legal matter, that this conversation happened at all, is not acceptable. I do not doubt that a similar conversation was had with other state(s).

Parties: Trump, Mark Meadows, and Trump lawyer Cleta Mitchell: Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, Sec. State Legal Counsel Ryan Germany.

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Trump: By the way, a little information, I think you’re going to find that they are shredding ballots, because they have to get rid of the ballots. ‘Cause the ballots are unsigned, because the ballots are corrupt, and they’re brand new and they don’t have seals and there’s a whole thing with the ballots. But, the ballots are corrupt and you’re going to find that they are…which is totally illegal, it’s more illegal for you then it is for them because you know what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal offense. You know, you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. That’s a big risk. But, they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I’ve heard and they are removing machinery, and they’re moving it as fast as they can. Both of which are criminal fines and you can’t let it happen and you are letting it happen, I mean, I’m notifying you that you are letting it happen.

So…look, all I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state and flipping the state is a great testament to our country, because you know, it’s a testament that they can admit to a mistake, or, whatever you want to call it. If it was a mistake, I don’t know. A lot of people think it wasn’t a mistake it was much more criminal than that. But, it’s a big problem in Georgia and it’s not a problem that’s going away. Not a problem that’s going away…

Ryan Germany: This is Ryan, we are looking at every one of those things that you mentioned…and our investigators…

Trump: Good, but if you find them, you got to say it.

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Germany: Let me tell you what we are seeing. What we are seeing is *not at all what you’re describing* <with emphasis>. These are investigators from our office, these are investigators from GBI. And they’re looking, and they’re good, and that’s not what they’re seeing, and we’ll keep looking, we’ll keep looking at all these things…

Trump: Well you better check on the ballots, ’cause they are shredding ballots, I’m just telling you Ryan. they’re shredding ballots and you should look at that very carefully, because that’s so illegal. You may not even believe it, cause it’s so bad. But, they’re shredding ballots because they think we’ll eventually get there, because we’ll eventually get into Fulton. In my opinion it’s never too late.

So, um that’s the story. Look, we need only 11,000 votes, we have far more than that as it stands now.

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In speaking on Military/overseas ballots-

Trump: A large batch came in, and it was, quote, 100% for Biden and that is criminal, you know, that’s criminal. Okay, that’s another criminal. That’s another of the many criminal events. Many criminal events here.

Um. I don’t know, look Brad, I have to get, I have to find 12,000 votes and I have them, times a lot. And, therefore, I won the state. That’s before we go to the next step, which is in the process of, right now, you know.

I watched you this morning and you said, ah, there was no criminality, but I mean all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff, when you talk about no criminality. I think it’s very dangerous for you to say that. I just don’t know why you don’t want to have the votes counted as they are.

So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes, give me a break. We have that in spades already.

So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election, and it’s not fair to take it away from us like this. And it’s going to be very costly, in many ways, and I think you have to say you’re going to re-examine it and you can re-examine it. But re-examine it with people who want to find answers, not people that don’t want to hear answers.

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There is one particular election employee Trump is stuck on, that is beeped out of the recording. He insists every vote she scanned went for Biden. Raffensperger says: that is not correct. Trump won’t let it go. Trump restates Raffensperger’s position as:

“He (Raffensperger) made that statement with surety [sic], but now I think he’s less sure, because the answer is: they all went to Biden, and that alone wins us the election by a lot.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, you have people that submit information and we have our people that submit information, and then it comes before the court, and then the court makes a determination. We have to stand by our numbers. We believe our numbers are right.

Trump: Why do you say that though? Sure we can play this game with the courts.

***We have to stop there to highlight how messed up this exchange is. What Raffensperger is making clear is that to challenge the state’s finding, puts these two parties on opposite sides of a legal battle. What Trump is making clear, is that he is fully aware that every legal challenge is failing because it has no merit, but he’s bluffing that, sure we could do that if you wanted to. I want to subvert the rightful place of the courts with our own little agreement. Throughout this conversation, I’m letting you know, you better just do what I say, and make a deal that I won the state, or there will be personal legal consequences and/or future election consequences for you.***

Trump: Hey Brad, why wouldn’t you want to check out (beeped out election lady’s name) and why wouldn’t you want to say, hey, if in fact, President Trump is right about that, then he wins the state of Georgia. Just that one incident alone, without going through hundreds of thousands of dropped ballots. You just say, you stick by… I mean I’ve been watching you for…you don’t care about anything. Your numbers are right. But your numbers aren’t right. They’re really wrong and they’re really wrong Brad, and I know this phone call is going nowhere, but ultimately…

Look ultimately I win, okay? because you guys are so wrong and you’ve treated the population of Georgia so badly. Between you and your governor who was down 21 points, and like a schmuck, I endorsed him, and he got elected. But, I will tell you, he’s a disaster, and he will never…I can’t imagine. The people are so angry in Georgia, I can’t imagine he’s ever getting elected right now.

But why wouldn’t you want to find the right answer, Brad? Instead of keeping saying the numbers are right, because those numbers are so wrong.

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Mark Meadows jumps in with the idea, both sides just need to meet really soon and agree there’s some actual big issues that need to be examined and the Federal government wants access to Georgia voter data.

Trump then threatens if they don’t settle what Trump wants, the upcoming runoff won’t go to the republicans. Raffensperger says, you can meet with the lawyers and they’ll tell you why your beliefs are wrong. He is not going to have an official meeting with them, as if any of their fever dreams are true. Raffensperger won’t allow them access to Georgia state election data. He is putting the ball in their court to go to court if they want.

Throughout this conversation, Trump highlights how Stacey Abrams is making a fool out of Georgia GOP. Everyone hates the Georgia Governor and Raffensperger.

Trump: Brad, we just want the truth, it’s simple. And ah, and everyone’s going to look very good if the truth comes out. It’s ok, it might take a little while. But, let the truth come out. And the real truth is I won by 400,000 votes, at least. That’s the real truth. But, we don’t need 400,000 votes, we need less than 2000 votes.

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I’d like to add, now that it seems more evident that this leak to WP came from the Georgia side and not the Trump admin, this makes more sense to what I originally posited.

Also, it is now reported this was the 18th attempt by Donny to get Raffensperger on the phone. 18. So my original assessment that this is how Donny has likely spent the last two months in office, aside from golfing, is closer to being accurate.

Trump’s Elite Strikeforce Attorney, Sidney Powell, Names Names and Numbers, lots

Today, when Team Trump has suffered a humiliating defeat in Pennsylvania, one of his lead attorneys, Sidney Powell of Elite Strikeforce One, has taken to the new, uber-Trumpy news outlet, Newsmax, to name names and cite astronomical numbers of fraudulent activity. Here it is.

Truly impressive.

Who are the conspiring parties in this international conspiracy of monumental scope and depth? Let’s see if we can follow the ever-increasing circle as Sidney names names. In order:

Many in the government. They. Hilary Clinton (bribed Bernie Sanders). There are “smoking guns” that need witness protection. Software companies. Dominion and similar companies. The Democratic operation. Joe Biden (dimensia), can be proven any minute now. “They” cut off their machines for hours. One of the high people in Dominion Voting Systems. Could also be: The CIA, DOJ, NSA, DHS, FBI. Gina Haskel, Christopher Wray. A person in the Dept. of Defense. AOC. A couple hundred people in the government. Eric Coomer from Dominion called Antifa (WTF. “Hello, Mr.Antifa? this is Eric.”). Eric Coomer disappeared. Dominion closed their operations, shredded documents and moved. China, Iran, Serbia, Lichtenstein, multiple places.

How many votes changed?

Roughly 7 million. Millions of dead people voted. People were payed to ballot harvest. Probably at least 10 million. Probably, maybe more. Several million dead people.

Hilarious, there’s a newer Sidney interview on Newsmax. Can’t believe Mark Halperin is working for this shit. I guess you gotta work. Awful. Anyway here’s the new counts:

How many votes changed now:

186,000. 86,000. 35,000 votes added to every Democratic candidate. All over one state, but probably everywhere.

A new list of conspirators to add to the one above: DOJ has turned a blind eye. CIA started the program. It’s so big. She can’t un-see what she has seen. Multiple generations of corruption. People. So much it’s hard to pull it all together. 1000’s of people. Hugo Chavez. Foreign actors. Georgia Governor Kemp and the Georgia Secretary of State were bribed. Georgia is bad: shredded, thrown out ballots, and people lying. Votes switched. Algorithms being run. Algorithm ran probably across the country. “They” in Michigan are stuffing ballots, except on the computer.

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Trump turned the GOP into a wacky cult, and there is no bottom to their insatiable hunger for total batshit crazy. No bottom.

GOP Wins Destruction of Faith in Elections

Generally speaking a plurality, if not a majority, of the US electorate have shown a level of distrust in the results of the US systems of election, this has been so for years. This chart below is not broken down to party, but it does indicate a fairly consistent level of distrust as a whole.

Although both major parties and independents have levels of distrust in the system, they are for entirely different reasons.

Democrats indicate distrust in accurate representative results (not systems) of elections due to the actual, real, documented regional efforts of voter suppression/disenfranchisement that is enacted, cycle after cycle, by their counterparts. They also, of late, have shown concern in the effect of foreign interference, which is not quantifiable in the actual, proven fact of disinformation, and not proven in any way at all in actual voting interference (machines, software, balloting).

By contrast, Republicans are more concerned in the systemic accuracy of elections as affected by propagandized, never-proven voter fraud, which generally has been focused around the fantasy of illegal immigrants voting or dead people voting. Although there are very rare instances of this having happened, the numbers are less than negligible.

These tendencies existed before Donald Trump, but, like every other US institution Trump was keen on destroying, the specter of voter fraud has been a powerful weapon for Trump to wield to undermine what has been the bedrock of US governance, our imperfect yet reliable: Election system(s).

From the 2016 election, “I will totally accept the results of this great and historic election…IF I WIN!”

-Which was a total prick thing to say, but as in all things, Donny is not kidding (I wish his sycophants would stop saying that). He’s never kidding. He doesn’t have a sense of humor. Even when he, himself thinks he might be kidding (when he’s talking about his hair or appearance, he is telling his truth).

After having won the 2016 Presidential election, Trump formed the “Advisory Commission on Election Integrity: ostensibly to prove that not only had Trump won the presidency via the electoral collage, but he had also won the popular vote and was robbed of that title by 3-5 million illegal aliens voting. An absolutely batshit-crazy concept created to soothe his fragile ego. The members of that commission had other ideas about the organization’s ultimate use, in that they saw this as a way to enact systems by which to control voting nationwide, and thereby more effectively disenfranchise minorities for the benefit of the GOP. This Commission was disbanded after having found no voter fraud, and amidst the controversy of its actual intent and overbearing attempts to demand access to state’s voter data.

In the next Nationwide election, the midterms of 2018, Trump once again inserted himself into the fact-free voter-fraud narrative, concerning races in Florida, Georgia, and Arizona, tweeting a series of unfounded claims, aimed at sowing doubt about the election results if Democrats ultimately prevailed.

In a series of tweets Friday, the president alleged without evidence that Democrats and election officials in the state were conspiring to steal the election and commit “fraud.” Speaking to reporters at the White House as he prepared to leave for Europe, Trump said Florida was “all of the sudden” finding “votes out of nowhere,” which Trump called a “disgrace.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/09/trump-tweets-about-close-florida-senate-and-georgia-governor-races.html

Sound familiar?

Following, would be Trump’s well-documented, months long attempt to cast the 2020 elections as similarly fraudulent before the fact, and frivolous, juvenile court actions incapable of proving those allegation, after the fact.

For some time the GOP has been committed to voter disenfranchisement and suppression as available and reliable tools to keep themselves in some form of minority power. It has been necessary to keep their constituents in lockstep with the righteousness of these efforts through whichever manufactured narrative necessary. To the point where, as I blogged earlier, even a little authoritarianism to that end is acceptable. Despite the fact there is no such thing as a little.

The GOP is perpetually aggrieved at the injustice visited upon them by the nonexistent boogeymen. The non-fact that there exists voter fraud that robs them of their minority representation, is in there DNA. It just is. What we also must understand, is acting en masse and protesting against these perceived threats, is also now in their DNA, tracing back to the most famous incarnation, in the 2000 Bush Gore presidential election, through the pivotal, and completely fabricated, “Brooks Brothers Riot“. They successfully halted recounting of votes, long enough for the Supreme Court action to legally end what would have most likely been an accurate Al Gore presidential victory.

If it works, it must be just.

The GOP thought leaders and politicians have successfully brainwashed their followers with the fable of voter fraud. Unfortunately we have reached such high levels of distrust in the system, with no fucking actual proof at all(!!!), that there is no clear endgame for the GOP. Where do they go from here? 61% now have heightened or complete levels of distrust.

If voter-ID laws are the endgame, they won’t get them in the states in which they’d like them enforced. And I have to admit, I doubt enacting any new laws would sate their hunger, until all elections were 100%-0% for whomever their figurehead might be at that time.

How un-fucking-believable is it, that in the latest Reuters poll, 52% of Republicans believe Trump “rightfully” won this 2020 election, because it was stolen from him by widespread voter fraud. !!! Not only did he not lose to widespread voter fraud, there was practically no voter fraud. Despite the difficulties of new mail in voting systems in many states, a fucking pandemic, and an initial shortage of poll workers, the US may have just pulled off its cleanest presidential election in recent history. Yet, 52% of Republicans are convinced of the opposite, with ZERO evidence to support the conclusion. Zero.

They just believe it.

Making Sense OF Barr’s Directive to Investigate the Election and Pilger’s Resignation

Today, William Barr issued a memo stating the DOJ may investigate allegations of vote and voting tabulation irregularities, seemingly on behalf of Donny Trump’s interests. Inserting the DOJ into what is primarily the arena of states. This move is well beyond the normally accepted role of the DOJ in possible election fraud, which would normally investigate after election certifications as an arm of the federal government.

Although the memo does point out, this should not be for frivolous reasons, there was something within the memo that caused the head of the DOJ Elections Crime Unit, Richard Pilger, to immediately resign.

Stronger legal minds than mine, have pointed out the wording, which is specific as to guidance of what type of allegation a US prosecutor should investigate:

The problem with the memo, is it doesn’t designate exactly who in the DOJ should investigate what, so that’s any of 93 US attorneys, and I suppose anyone within the DOJ whom Barr directs to investigate. Also, even though the wording describes what type of allegation should be investigated, the wording is subjective and at Barr’s or any Attorney’s discretion. So, one could start an investigation on any type of allegation at all, and then decide it was, in the exact language of the memo: specious or far-fetched …or not.

Futhermore, and I suspect this is the reason why Pilger quit, it allows for this investigation to take place outside of the DOJ Election Crime Unit’s purview. So it would not be bound by their oversight or guidance.

This section is standard Willy Barr wishy-washiness that allows a new standard to be made on-the-fly.

I don’t view this as pleasantly as McFaul does. We don’t know what conversations occurred between Pilger and Barr. It could potentially be that Barr sought Pilger’s buy-in. It could be that Barr told Pilger, he wants him to approve whatever kind of nonsense was dug up and rubberstamp it for further investigation that could potentially come close to State’s certification. They might not have spoken at all.

In conjunction with Defense Secretary Esper’s firing today, and the reports that the Director of the CIA and FBI are next, I’m not feeling great.

We knew Donny was going to go scorched earth, we didn’t really think he’d try to go full on dictator. He isn’t, yet. But this would be how you get there.

Get rid of whatever stability in government you can. Line up the controlling party’s support, arrange for the million of followers total buy-in. Then, the second to last piece, is multiple investigations grinding through court, like the fishing expedition above and from Donny’s private henchmen, to push up against Dec. 14 States Election Certification deadline, and then have State assemblies pick the President on the electorate’s behalf.

This is super far-fetched, but I mean..the steps taken so far are how you go there.

Mueller announces new indictments

Mueller’s grand jury hands down indictments for 15 Russian individuals and entities.  Indictment is here.  All of the organizations are being charged with conspiracy, fraud, and related offenses in regard to their interference in US elections.

News organizations are pointing out that it is highly unlikely that any of these individuals will ever see a day in court.  Such indictments will certainly affect the ability to freely move about in the world for fear of extradition.

What we are overlooking is the absolutely powerful statement these indictments make and their effects on any future narrative about Russian interference in our election.  No longer can any arguments be made that:

  1. There is no proof of a Russian organized attempt to undermine our election.
  2. The Mueller investigation is a witch hunt.
  3. The Mueller investigation is a complete waste of time.

Take note Fox news and all of the talking heads.  It’s real.  It’ always been real.  Mueller is not wasting our time and money.  It’s not a witch hunt.  THE FUCKING INVESTIGATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN OUR FUCKING ELECTIONS.

I don’t believe Mueller is playing politics in announcing these indictments at this time.  He appears to be methodical and plodding.  These indictments came down at exactly the time they were ready.  That being said, I couldn’t be happier about their existence at this time.  Perhaps Congress will feel the fire at their feet.

Take note Congress.  If anyone is wasting our time and money, it is you.  You’ve done exactly jack-shit to protect our upcoming elections.  You’ve done exactly jack-shit to shed light on what the Russians did in 2016 with or without the help of the current administration.

Sure, probably nothing will ever come of these indictments.  That’s not the point.  The point is Mueller is doing exactly the job he was assigned.  The overview of the entire investigation is about protecting our country and Mueller is making honest and measurable advances to just that end.